across the pond
22, 2003 - by Lucy Test
happens when sims living hoods apart meet on a message board and post by
post fall in love? In this interview by guest writer Lucy Test you can
meet the most famous SUN boards couple, Natalija and Cletus.
is with the greatest pleasure that I was able to interview the duo that
make up the most talked about relationship in the SUN community.
The story of their romance, and its many ups and downs, has been followed
avidly by Sims from all across Sim Nation. Now for the first time,
you can hear their story, in their own words as I went to the home of this
dynamic and charismatic couple to try and find out what it is that has
captivated us all.
How did you two meet each other?
How did we meet? Well I guess we met before we actually met in a way, I'll
let you tell her baby, it was you who approached me after all.
I did not approach you; you got it all wrong, baby! Actually, I was
to Aaron first. I was bored, tried to stir up a little trouble.
tore my head off and handed it back to me. That got my hunter's blood
up. I wanted to know more about you, but I still didn't say anything
to you, just Aaron. I started questioning him about you, were you
single, all that.
Well yes I did get a little harsh with you, but you asked for it, and I
didn't know you were talking to Aaron about me, the first I knew was when
Aaron told me you were interested, see Lucy, Aaron was talking to this
woman, on the SUN Friends and Dating Board and Cletus here tried to wind
him up by telling the girl, he was interested in that he was a player,
so I gave him a bit of a telling off, I was a married woman at the time,
don't forget that baby.
then after Neil died, Aaron told me there was this guy who was interested
in me, and again I was a little short with him and told him to bug off,
I wasn't interested But he's a persistent guy and he wrote to me with this
stuff saying how he would protect me with his life and such, well it got
me interested, so I wrote back, right Honey?
Yeah, see you approached me first even if it was to tell me to bug off.
(You didn't like me at all; I really had to work hard to get you). I started
not to even reply, but something Aaron said, "what have you got to lose?"
made sense. So I laid it all out for her, what I would do if we got
together. As soon as I wrote it, I wished I hadn't, felt like a fool,
but look where it led. We started talking and discovered we had a
lot of things in common...well, poetry wasn't one of them, but I could
It seems I thought we had more in common that we actually did, but he was
so sweet and even though he doesn't like to admit it, so romantic too,
it got me curious and I found I couldn't stop writing to him.
What were your first impressions of each other?
From writing to each other you mean? Well, to tell you the truth I thought
he was a bit of a jerk, I guess it got my back up when he started teasing
Aaron and I was fairly determined not to like him, but then when we started
writing more, I softened up a little
Oh, I flipped for Natalija right away. I knew she didn't like me;
I can be a jerk at times...hell, most of the time. She didn't back
down, didn't take any of my nonsense. But she had just lost her husband
by then, and I knew she wasn't ready for any kind of romance. I figured
we'd just be friends. I told her how it was with me when my wife died suddenly,
that is something we had in common, for sure. The shock of your spouse
taken from you with no warning, it's crippling. I could feel how
much pain she was in and wanted to help her.
Awww isn't that just the sweetest thing you've ever heard?
right though, when we first started talking I wasn't ready for any kind
of relationship, although Cletus was a big help to me, I don't think he
knew how much actually, but it certainly wasn't a love at first write situation,
for me at least. It was a gradual thing. I started off not wanting
to like him and as I got to know him more, the more I liked him, and slowly
I fell in love with him.
What lead to you both travelling to meet each other?
meeting each other? Well that was my idea, I'd been reading George Phillip
Martin's SUN Exchange newsletter and I thought that we could use the same
air travel system to meet each other. We'd been talking quite a while
by then and I thought it might be fun; it was more problematic than either
of us thought though
Yeah, there is a language problem. Isn't that a hoot? England
is the US's mother country, but we don't speak the same language.
I can come here but she couldn't go there. That's how I ended up
visiting, and staying here. But it's ok, I like it here and my boys
have adjusted, they think of the Plaza as home. I was really nervous
about actually meeting Natalija at first. What if she really couldn't
stand me? There was the age thing and the fact that she's so beautiful,
I'm surprised that guys weren't lining up to take her out.
Aiden and I got turned back at customs when we arrived at Smallville and
weren't allowed to enter the country, so Cletus and his family came here
instead. When he got here and we were actually going to meet for
the first time, oh boy, I had such butterflies in my stomach, I mean, either
of us could have been so different from what the other had imagined, the
whole thing could have been one giant disaster. I wasn't as worried
about the age thing really, I mean after all age is just a number right?
What is the age difference?
There's 17 years between us.
Has this caused a problem with other Sims who may not approve?
No not really, well apart from my dad, he's the only sim to seem to have
a problem with it, which is strange in a way I guess, I would have thought
Sam would find it pretty difficult too. I've never really been inundated
with date offers, I think a lot of guys are put off by the fact that I
say what I think, I can get a lot of Sims backs up and apparently have
a bit of a reputation for being hard to handle, I'm not really though,
am I baby?
Oh, baby, I love to handle you.... ugh, except for those sharp elbows of
yours. I have permanent bruises from them. Uh, where was I?
yeah, first date. I had a nightmare that everything I said to her,
little minus signs would appear over her head. You ever heard of
that before? But we connected right away, none of that first-date awkwardness.
Maybe because by then, we'd been writing to each other for so long.
I knew I loved her even before we came here, and after the first time we
actually met, I knew we'd be together eventually.
right, baby. Your dad is the only one who ever made an issue of the age
difference. I had second thoughts at first, but then it didn't seem
important. And Sam didn't seem to see anything wrong with it either.
But he's really immature anyway, and Natalija is way more mature than most
Sims her age. And I love it that she speaks her mind, none
of that female game playing. It's refreshing.
That's one thing, baby, you'll always know if you've done something to
think I've ever clicked with someone so quickly, but like Cletus said,
that's probably because we had been writing to each other for quite a while
by then, I remember our first date, we went to the Park and just sat and
talked for hours. I couldn't sleep at all that night.
I loved him just after he took me away to the beach for the weekend, we'd
had a bit of a row and I think we were both a little uncertain about what
would happen next, and I was at home thinking about how I would feel if
he left and went back to the US, and that's the time I could say, This
is the man I love.
What has been your most difficult time together?
most difficult time together? Well for me, without a doubt it would
have to be the week Cletus was being held by that cult in Smallville, I
was just going crazy, not knowing where he was or if he was all right,
I couldn't stand it.
We have had a lot of difficult moments. Natalija and Aiden were kidnapped
by thugs hired by that Hansworth fellow, that was a really bad time, I
never felt so helpless in my life. Then I had to go to Smallville
on a family emergency and really got my ass kicked, didn't wake up for
three days. I was in the hospital when Aaron told me Natalija was pregnant
and in the hospital herself with complications, I had to check myself out
against medical advice and get back here quickly. But everything
has worked out fine. We are always there for each other even when
times get bad. I can tell her anything, and she can confide in me
too. I just have to watch myself, I tend to be overprotective of
my family, but Nat is teaching me to treat her as an equal.
Yeah there have been a lot of difficult moments, but I think they've only
helped us to become stronger as a couple, instead of giving up when things
got tough. When Cletus was missing in Smallville, and I had just
found out that I was pregnant, I was so worried, we hadn't really talked
about having children, we hadn't really talked that much about getting
married either, and I didn't really know how he would feel about it.
a way it's nice that he tries to protect us so much, but I can take care
of myself and I hate to be smothered. Every relationship has its
kinks, and it seems that so many Sims split up because of that. But we're
both mature enough to know that relationships are about give and take too,
and you can't expect to just be ok coasting along.
Right now, I think I'm happier than I've ever been. I have everything
a sim could want, a home, children, friends, and my soul mate. Who
could ask for anything more?
I couldn't have said it better myself. My life is exactly the way I want
it to be and I've never been happier.
How does it feel to have the most famous relationship in SUN?
Well I wouldn't say we were famous exactly, would you honey? Yes it is
a little strange to see people talking about us, and when George Phillip
wrote that we had inspired a lot of Sims, well, it's hard to think that
people are that interested in us really.
It is surprising to me too. We mostly stopped posting on the Simmerville
board after we got together and yet I still get questions and comments
about my relationship with Natalija. It was nice to meet George Martin
and his wife Nickie in person; I've read his stuff since last fall, and
it was a pleasure to finally meet him.
Yeah, they're both really nice people, and I guess in a way if it wasn't
for George Phillip running the SUN Exchange we probably never would have
actually met, so here's to you George. I bet he considers himself a rather
unlikely cupid eh?
is abundantly clear from talking to these two Sims that they are very much
in love with each other, and the force of their combined personalities
is one that can be felt any time they are in the room. Feeding off
each other's strengths and supporting each other's weaknesses, the easy
intimacy that radiates from them puts you at ease from the start.
Although maybe not the most likely of couples, it is plain to see that
this is a relationship that will only be strengthened as time goes on.
Their love and dedication to each other and to their combined extended
families seems to be contradictory with the trend of relationships in Sim
Nation today and I can only surmise that it is this that makes them so
fascinating to us all.
like to thank Cletus and Natalija Jones for taking the time to talk with
me, and wish them all the best for the future.